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Seeking the truth about God, the bible, and faith.

Quest for Truth 127 Honest Questions

As Keith and the Retrobots await a phone call, they enjoy a song. Requested by our number one fan, we listen to “Gold” by Nathan Caldwell.

Ideas for the podcast come from many sources. This one began by borrowing some honest questions that another blogger had asked on his web site. As he puts it:

Recently I challenged my friends and acquaintances, those who are skeptics, agnostics, non-religious and so on to raise their best questions regarding the Christian faith. I asked them to raise honest questions, questions that if answered would possibly clear the road for them to believe.

We avoided looking at his answers, so if we arrived at similar conclusions, it was done independently. , but check out the original blog article found at
Seven Honest Questions Regarding Christianity: A Challenge

For our purposes, as we try to stay cool on another hot summer day, the Retrobots, David and Callie ask us the questions.

Question One: If God made us who made God?

Both Nathan and Keith agree, the universe that we know is finite. It has a definite beginning in time, space, and matter. God is outside that realm, eternal. Though all we know has a cause, he is the infinite creator who has no cause. He created our universe, while being a creature outside of it. Similar to how a carpenter builds a box. He isn’t the box, or made from the same material. He existed before the box did, and continues to exists even after the box serves its purpose. Can he interact with the box, use the box, enjoy the box, fill the box, or empty the box? Yes, and god can do the same, but on a larger, and more intimate scale than any human carpenter.

Question Two: One question I can’t figure out is why do people pray? If God has a master plan for everyone, what good is praying for someone as that would only seem to be trying to change God’s mind regarding his divine plan?

We agree that God knows everything, but also point to the account in Exodus 34. To summarize, the people had made a golden calf to worship. God pointed it out to Moses, then went on to claim he would destroy the nation, and rebuild one out of Moses. Moses prayed, and God seemed to have changed his mind on the matter, allowing the nation to live. God certainly knew, and knows the future. His claim of destruction was for Moses behalf. God wanted to point out how horrible their sin was. They certainly deserved death. God is also all about grace, and Moses demonstrated god’s kind of grace for the undeserving people when he prayed for them. Through the instance, it was Moses who had a better understanding of who God is, and what he wants for his people.

Should we pray for the sick, those in financial need, or other dire circumstance? Yes. Just because God knows the outcome, and what he has in store, the process of the conversation of prayer will help us to understand that person’s emotions and struggle. They matter to God, and they should matter to us.

Question number Three: How is Christianity any different than the myths before it?

Though Nathan has some trouble in where this question is coming from, he makes an excellent point that nothing preceded it. There’s a timeline through the history of Israel that predicts, and leads right into the time of Christ. He also brings up the point that myths have no historical evidence, where Christianity has plenty of historic evidence to support the Bible accounts. Keith tries to explain what little he knows about the alleged myths. The real problem is a modern thought problem. It’s easy to look back over the centuries, and wonder over any similarities of long forgotten myths. In a recent podcast, hosted by J Warner Wallace, he makes the comment that though few today know about the myths, those gods were still actively worshipped in the time of Christ and the early church. If early Christians stole those myths, or set up meeting places in the temples and shrines to them, there would be public outcry. History has no evidence of any such claims or outcries, especially in the first 2 centuries, when people were still very active in worship of the mythological gods.

Question number Four: Every Christian must accept Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross in order to go to heaven. What about those people who have never heard of Jesus?

God knows the heart of every person. He knows who will believe, if only they heard the gospel. He knows the ones who won’t. If there was an unreached person, presumably in a foreign jungle somewhere, God is big enough that he would somehow place that tender heart in the path of a missionary. That’s not such a crazy idea.

There’s really an underlying question or two here. Ones that the asking person may or may not be aware of. Since Christ is the only way, many “good” people are being sent to hell. The answer is that God doesn’t send good people to eternal punishment. However, it might pay to use the right label, or definition of what “good” means. God’s definition may surprise you. Only a rare few can actually meet the standard of God’s demand for “good.” His demand is actually perfection. Fortunately, we don’t have to meet that moral standard because of the price Jesus paid. So salvation is less a moral perfection, and more about where you stand with Jesus. What about those remote people who have never heard the good news? God knows who might believe but we don’t. That’s why it’s important to pray, and go tell them.

The most important unspoken question here is this: Clearly you have heard about Jesus. What are you going to do about him? Take care of your own eternal needs first, then because your heart is broken for those remote people who haven’t heard… pray, and go tell them.

Question number Five: What about those dinosaurs? Seems to me that it would take a pretty sick sense of humor to stick a bunch of animal bones into the ground that “never existed.”
Why can’t science and Christianity coincide?
Isn’t it possible that human error occurred in the writing or, rewriting of translations of the original texts when speaking of creation and the age of the world?
Religion has always had political affiliations so isn’t it possible in the rewritings that the original message had been perverted or changed entirely to suit the needs of that government?

OK, there’s a lot here. Most Christians don’t dispute the existence of dinosaurs. They even seem to make an appearance in the Bible. The thing to remember is the Bible has never made a claim to be a science book. Where it overlaps in scientific areas, are usually to praise God for his amazing creation. Nathan and Keith never make it to the discussion of the old earth, or young earth debate, sorry,, maybe another day.

We have more to say on the matter of whether the hand written transcripts of the Bible have been perverted to suit the demands of political, or government agendas. Oddly enough, there’s just too much evidence that the writings are accurate, and come to us, despite any translation issues, just the way the original texts were.

Can religion be distorted, polluted, corrupted, and the like? Certainly. Several times, make that many times, religion has been corrupted through the influence of the culture. Or some political reason or other. But when it happens, it’s because the focus has been taken away from the scripture, and human agendas pushed in to distort religion.

The corrupt system collapses when people return to teachings from the scripture. Reformations become driven as believers casts off the corrupt ways. Believe it, or not, even social reforms like abolishing slavery in America came about due to religious practices returning to what scripture really says.

Question number Six: Why are some Christians hypocrites? They claim to go by Jesus’s saying “Judge not, Lest you be Judged” but then they turn around and start judging and condemning people like homosexuals saying they’re going to hell and all that stuff. I don’t agree with homosexuality, but I don’t like those “hypocritical Christians” telling me not to associate with them. I’m not gay but I have a lot of gay friends and I don’t want to give up their friendship.

We don’t disagree. Don’t give up your friends. Introduce them to Jesus, and let him do the rest.

The real issue here is less about hypocrisy, and more on the issue of tolerance. Jesus never condemned using judgement. It’s actually a virtue when done correctly. Grace may be the greater virtue though, when it comes to introducing the sinner to him. Speaking of sin, the Bible is very clear that practicing homosexuality, or any sexual act outside of marriage is sin.

When people demand tolerance, what they actually want is forgiveness, long suffering, or being long on allowance. We’re all for that, as long as it goes both ways. I’ll give you plenty of slack in dealing with your sin, if you give me the same allowances. There’s one more thing folks demand, claiming it to be under the banner of tolerance, and that is to be affirmed, or condoned. Now that crosses a line.

Condoning bad behavior is not the way. It only encourages to a person to be a better sinner. Even Jesus told the woman caught in the act of adultery: I forgive you. Go and sin no more.

Question number Seven: How do you deal with hypocrisy within Christianity itself without becoming disillusioned or cynical?

Christians don’t corner the market on hypocrites. There are in every walk of life and social group. How does anybody deal with people behaving badly, without becoming cynical? Pray, and make the effort to see them as the valuable, cherished people that God sees them.

Hypocracy, or christians behaving like the rest of the world, is the top reason people are turned off by the church. But if people are behaving poorly, where else can they hope to learn about good behavior, if not in the church? People are on different phases in their journey, and some have more to work on than others. We don’t condone the sin, or encourage it, instead we encourage overcoming, being restored, and helping others where possible. To do otherwise would be hypocritical to the faith.

The show is a little longer than expected, but the Retrobots help sign off with a bonus question, and a closing thought.

Though we tried to give an honest answer to each question, if you feel we sold one short, or didn’t give it proper attention, point it out, and we’ll gladly return to it.

Quest for Truth 126 Gospel Goodness

It’s hot today, so we skip the meet the host segment, The Retrobots help out, as we wait for Nathan to phone in to comment on our main topic. Ambient noise from being out in the breeze causes some background noise, but my noise gate managed to filter some of it. You know how we roll… low tech, and when we can achieve pristine, studio sound we like it. This is one show where we threw that caution to the wind… literally.

Main Topic

Once Nathan’s phone call comes in, we get right into looking at Ephesians 1:1-14.

There’s a lot of heavy hitting topics in such a short span of verses, and it’s important to understand who the audience this message is intended. Blessings, promises, assurances, but these are not blanket promises for all humanity, only those who are the faithful ones.

Greeting

1 Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, To the saints who are in Ephesus, and are faithful in Christ Jesus:
2 Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

  • Written to the saints at Ephesus.
  • Saints/Ephesians who are faithful.
  • Faithful in Christ. (faithful to the gospel)

Spiritual Blessings in Christ

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places,

  • God blesses us. (God the father of our lord, our lord Jesus,)
  • God the authority to bless, and blessings that can’t be taken by lower authority.
  • Blessings to us who are faithful in Christ.
  • Blessings from the best heaven has to offer.
  • We return those blessings to God in the form of gratitude and praise.

4 even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love
5 he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will,
6 to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved.

  • He (God) chose us. Does this apply to all humanity? No, this is specifically for the elect, the believers.
  • God made his choice before creation.
  • Restoring people to him,
  • Who? He predestined us for adoption.
  • How? He predestined adoption through Christ
  • According to his will. His will, not ours, or anybody else’.
  • What’s his will? To be in him, (Christ). To be holy, blameless, in love.
  • Also to praise his (God’s) grace.
  • Why? Due to grace, blessings come.
  • Blessings to us, who are in him (the beloved, Christ).
  • Also grace that is extended to the people groups who have yet to connect, believe, and become the elect. Opportunity to connect to the power, and promise is available, even if not chosen (free will).

7 In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace,
8 which he lavished upon us, in all wisdom and insight
9 making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ

  • Christ. in him is redemption (salvation, adoption).
  • The price, his blood.
  • What it buys. Forgiveness for all sin (transgression). An irrevocable blessing from grace.
  • Grace that is lavished on us.
  • Grace that unlocks the mystery of God’s purpose.
  • Grace that gives wisdom and insight.
  • A purpose established with Christ (before creation, for redemption, adoption, to understand how to live well, and love our creator)

10 as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.

A statement that some consider a difficult saying. If only the elect get to claim the kingdom, then why does it say “all” will be gathered to him?

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  • Purpose of the plan (of redemption, salvation, of restoration) comes in fullness of time, when the time is right.
  • All things being things in heaven and things in earth. (Things, not people).
  • Not universal salvation, but universal sovereignty that Jesus has in the power of his blood.
  • Jesus has ultimate authority, but the person still has to connect, and plug into that power.
  • All people will bow, but some will be cast off, while others go to glory, and this united heaven and earth.

Remember the audience of this writing, faithful believers, not an open letter to humanity. Getting back into context…

11 In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will,
12 so that we who were the first to hope in Christ might be to the praise of his glory.
13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,

  • Inheritance is obtained through Christ.
  • Predestined according to God’s purpose. Planned before we ever knew there would be a need.
  • According to his will alone.
  • “We” (meaning Paul, the Ephesians, and early Christians) are privileged to be the first generation of believers.
    His good will. His authoritative will.

  • First comes hearing the gospel. Then comes belief, which seals the relationship of adoption.
  • Sealed by the holy spirit.

14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.

  • The guarantee (downpayment, earnest) is the holy spirit, and his seal. (Since Christ is the full payment)
  • The downpayment is temporary blessing, and assurance, until we come into full inheritance at life’s end.
  • It’s a down payment of blessing paid to us, until we can move into our home in the kingdom.

As we sign off, the Retrobots, David and Callie, share a closing thought of the week.

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Quest for Truth 125 Hello, Meet God, the Almighty Creator (Re-Quest1)

Special guest hosts,, Retrobots David and Callie, rummage through the archived shows to piece this first ever Re-Quest show together.

Dating back to January 2015. Actually the pilot episode, but it became episode 1. It features a few comments on why the podcast came to be, and solo thoughts about God being almighty, and in charge of his creation. by Keith, who is yet to be joined by any co-hosts. The following are slightly edited, and updated show notes from the pilot, and first episodes.

Quest 1 God Almighty, And Creator

Introducing the podcast that tries to seek for truth about God, the Bible, and life. In this first installment Keith takes a look at the first point in the Apostle’s Creed. This foundational creed dates back to the earliest statements of faith.

To find what the bible says about God being Almighty, and creator, the words of Job are given a glance, since he seems to have the most to say on the mightiness of God. Interesting since he wasn’t in the family of Abraham, and is famously known for the torment he went through. He at least knew that as crazy as life got, God was still in control.

Next time, look for a new segment. Actually, the next show features the first appearance of longstanding co-host, Nathan Caldwell. Look for it on the web site, or just keep listening. Where do we go in the future? Topics will shift toJesus, the scriptures, and beyond.

Quest 1.5 Introducing God

Keith is joined by co-host, Nathan Caldwell. Meet the hosts for some background of each host. Keith is a long time Christian, and a regular guy, with a regular job. Nathan is a Missionary Baptist preacher, and both want to relate to you where ever you are in life.

Faith in God should reach a point where you leave the dogma of your parents, religion, and religious teachers behind, and explore for yourself for what’s fake, and what’s real.

Join the discussion. Everybody is at a different point in their walk of faith, and dealing with religious matters. We’d love to have you drop us a line with some personal advice. Ask a question about what’s next in your new faith. Ask that burning, hard to answer question, and we’ll give it our best responce.

Nathan shares an outline from the bible about knowing what truth is. We can be assured of an absolute truth, and the bible can be held as trustworthy in matters of historical and spiritual truth alike. Simply believing in a fact you make up yourself, or in your own opinions and experiences can be a dangerous, and life threatening thing. Everybody has a limitaition. Our knowledge is limited to our perspective. God is bigger than his creation, and we can stand above our created world, and begin to understand matters better when we get a glimpse of how God sees things. We get that glimpse from what we learn from the pages of the bible.

Does it take lots of wisdom and learning? No, even a child can understand. Need more knowledge to satisfy? Matters of God are as deep as you want to go. Keep seeking and growing, because the deeper we seek the truth, we move our faith from a shallow one, to one with roots that can withstand the hard trials in life. .

Remember, we want to hear from you. Comment, send an email, whether here, or on Nathan’s site, Protectors of the Book.

Note: The audio has been slightly edited to reduce some echo, and other audio artifacts from the original file. We were getting used to the recording process, and still had a lot to iron out.

Quest for Truth 124 Sounds of a Softened Heart

Joined by a new sound man, and a live, canned studio audience, we have some fun to punch up the audio by having Chris interject sound affects for us. Who knew we were so funny, until we get our own laugh track? Even saying the most lame things.

Meet the Hosts

Cris gives us an update on how his surgery went. So far so good, but he’ll be hanging around the Church House studio for about another month before returning to his man cave.

Everybody else has been leading the typical, boring life, except for a broken down air conditioner here in Church House studio. Looks like a long, hot Summer, unless folks want to contribute funds to help get it fixed. Feel free to fund the project at PayPal, Goal: $1500 Just be sure to change the amount to whatever you might afford. Of course I’m joking… unless you’re really gonna do it.

Shout out to The Gospel Coalition (@TGC)

Your identity is in Christ. Discipleship hard. God’s Word good. The church vital. The future glorious.
#Pride2017

From the Random Department, we discuss: Is technology the new tower of Babel?

Trust me, we’re all for technology. It’s how we do the things we do. But it has some similar properties behind the purpose of the tower, mentioned in Genesis. A project instituted by humanity, to unify humanity, and ending by scattering people because God wasn’t in it. Technology has the power to unify and empower humanity, but it also carries a dark side to it that empowers people with malicious intent to do harm. Technology can augment our lives, but how far will people take it before it becomes opposite of what God wants for us?

Main Topic

Mark 4:1-20

The Parable of the Sower

1 Again he began to teach beside the sea. And a very large crowd gathered about him, so that he got into a boat and sat in it on the sea, and the whole crowd was beside the sea on the land. 2 And he was teaching them many things in parables, and in his teaching he said to them:

3 “Listen! Behold, a sower went out to sow.

4 And as he sowed, some seed fell along the path, and the birds came and devoured it.

5 Other seed fell on rocky ground, where it did not have much soil, and immediately it sprang up, since it had no depth of soil. 6 And when the sun rose, it was scorched, and since it had no root, it withered away.

7 Other seed fell among thorns, and the thorns grew up and choked it, and it yielded no grain.

8 And other seeds fell into good soil and produced grain, growing up and increasing and yielding thirtyfold and sixtyfold and a hundredfold.”

9 And he said, “He who has ears to hear, let him hear.”

Why Parables?

10 And when he was alone, those around him with the twelve asked him about the parables. 11 And he said to them, “To you has been given the secret of the kingdom of God, but for those outside everything is in parables, 12 so that “they may indeed see but not perceive, and may indeed hear but not understand, lest they should turn and be forgiven.” 13 And he said to them, “Do you not understand this parable? How then will you understand all the parables?

Soils Explained

14 The sower sows the word.

15 And these are the ones along the path, where the word is sown: when they hear, Satan immediately comes and takes away the word that is sown in them.

16 And these are the ones sown on rocky ground: the ones who, when they hear the word, immediately receive it with joy. 17 And they have no root in themselves, but endure for a while; then, when tribulation or persecution arises on account of the word, immediately they fall away.

18 And others are the ones sown among thorns. They are those who hear the word, 19 but the cares of the world and the deceitfulness of riches and the desires for other things enter in and choke the word, and it proves unfruitful.

20 But those that were sown on the good soil are the ones who hear the word and accept it and bear fruit, thirtyfold and sixtyfold and a hundredfold.”

We discuss the complexity of what is said from the simple and obvious, to some of the more complex.

Clearly it’s a demonstration of why some people believe, while others do not. Often a parable or bible teaching allows the reader to relate to one position or other. This one has the roles set. Jesus is the sower, the soil is the heart of humanity, and whether you believe, or not, falls into one of the four categories of soil.

Can the soil change? Is a person’s lot in life set, depending on where his circumstance places him? It’s the question of free will. If the soil is passive, and inanimate, like the soil of nature, then free will may be just as rigidly set. However, even so, the seed is sown in places where it isn’t likely to grow or thrive. Despite rejection, shallowness, or attitudes that may let it die off, the seed is still planted there.

We propose that the soil in the parable is a living soil, since it represents the life of humanity. As a living and dynamic thing, there are choices to be made. Free will. Is it strictly up to us to weed out the thorns, remove the rocks, or soften the hard packed soil? It’s good to desire that. To stick close to the parable, and not read too much into it, just like with a natural farm, it’s the farmer who plows, cultivates, and tills the ground to get it ready. Then the seed that the sower plants can be properly received.

In the end, whether you see free will as in the hands of God’s foreknowledge, or in control by the individual, the best thing to do is pray that God do the softening, and make he various types of soil ready to receive his seed of the Gosple message.
We close with a closing thought or two from some good folks on Twitter.

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Quest for Truth 123 Bible Survey 12: An Eternal King Promised

Back in the chat room, we get caught up and talk about some hot topics in the news of late. Independence Day in the United States is right around the corner, and a matter of removing certain monuments is in the news. Namely monuments to honor the former Confederate States.

In our Meet the Hosts segment, we discuss the feelings many have on the dark chapter in our nation, regarding slavery, and Confederate monuments. Is it right to tear down tributes to the ugly past? Should the monuments remain to serve as a reminder of where we should never return? Is there an appropriate compromise tht can be worked out? Listen, but realize our opinions are just that. Feel free to contact us to share your take on the matter.

It’s the season for Vacation Bible School (VBS), and we tell how it has gone for us. Successes, failures, and stories from the trenches, although the Retrobots seem to have been taking liberties in the control room again.

To spark a litle added conversation, we do some roll playing to answer a question on rebelling against authority. Can it be? Have your hosts actually had run ins with the long arm of the law? Were we ever in trouble for anything in high school? Or just the convenient victim to thee pranks of others?

For the sake of the random topic department, we chase a bunny or two down the trail. Learn about hot button, buzz topics that we’re just tired of hearing about, and discussing.

Main Topic

Bible Survey 12. An Eternal King Promised

Scriptures

Jeremiah 23:1-6; Isaiah 9:6-7; Zechariah 9:9-10

Summary

  • Jeremiah prophesies a restoration of the scattered flock.
  • Isaiah: What joy shall be in the midst of afflictions, by the birth and kingdom of Christ
  • Zechariah: Zion is exhorted to rejoice for the coming of Christ, and his peaceable kingdom.

We comment on these passages, and the context the promises were made to the nation of Israel. Despite the downfall, restoration would come, and even have long reaching hope and peace for all humanity. Read, and enjoy the promises that have been fulfilled in the coming of Jesus.

Jeremiah 23:1-6 (ESV)

1 “Woe to the shepherds who destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture!” declares the LORD.
2 Therefore thus says the LORD, the God of Israel, concerning the shepherds who care for my people: “You have scattered my flock and have driven them away, and you have not attended to them. Behold, I will attend to you for your evil deeds, declares the LORD.
3 Then I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all the countries where I have driven them, and I will bring them back to their fold, and they shall be fruitful and multiply.
4 I will set shepherds over them who will care for them, and they shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, neither shall any be missing, declares the LORD.
5 “Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will raise up for David a righteous Branch, and he shall reign as king and deal wisely, and shall execute justice and righteousness in the land.
6 In his days Judah will be saved, and Israel will dwell securely. And this is the name by which he will be called: ‘The LORD is our righteousness.’

Isaiah 9:6-7 (ESV)

6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

7 Of the increase of his government and of peace there will be no end, on the throne of David and over his kingdom, to establish it and to uphold it with justice and with righteousness from this time forth and forevermore. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will do this.

Zechariah 9:9-10 (ESV)

9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion! Shout aloud, O daughter of Jerusalem!
Behold, your king is coming to you; righteous and having salvation is he, humble and mounted on a donkey, on a colt, the foal of a donkey.

10 I will cut off the chariot from Ephraim and the war horse from Jerusalem; and the battle bow shall be cut off, and he shall speak peace to the nations; his rule shall be from sea to sea, and from the River to the ends of the earth.

We close the show with a deep thought for the week Well, at least somehing humorous.

Quest for Truth 122 Five Ways for Exercising Prayer

A solo episode that gets a little help from the Retrobots.

In the Meet the Host segment, the Retrobots prove how funny they are… or think they are… as we talk about exercising. I’ll just say that they have better writers than I do. There isn’t much else to say, other than to explain where the topic for the day came from, A sermon from about a year ago where the audio got munched. Fortunately, , being heavy on scripture, and light on commentary, Keith gives it a read through from his original notes. But first, the Retrobots want to share a song from the days of old time radio. Phil Harris wasn’t known for being a Christian performer, but like many did in the early 20th century, he recorded spiritual songs. Not that this one is particularly spiritual, but oddly enough, it seems to fit the topic.

Main Topic

Grab your bibles and read along to these passages. If you find yourself in the same kind of need, say the prayers right along.

Psalm 51. Repentance, Confession, and Forgiveness. David had a horrible sin in his life. We may not have the same ones, but examining sin in our life should. Cause us to see it how God does. When we do we should have the same shame, and desire to get rid of it, and be restored as he did.

Acts 4:27-31. Encouragement. Knowing the immediate context of the events leading to this moment will intensify the courage it took for Peter to pray this short prayer. He. Had just seen the Messiah be cruelly and unjustly killed. He denied him, then was restored with the command to, “Feed my lambs.” Despite witnessing the spirit move, and healing taking place, Peter now faced the same accusers and powers that killed Jesus.

1 Kings 3:5-15. Wisdom. Imagine that you received a clear word from God, and he would grant your one wish, the deepest thing you might ask for to guide your life, Solomon faced that decision. He was young, inexperienced, had a tough act to follow and live up to after his father David’s righteous reputation. He was humble, understood the weight of his office, and asked only for wisdom. Always a good default thing to ask for, God will give it, and include things we never asked for.

2 Chronicles 20:5-12. Deliverance. Jehoshaphat was one of the good kings. He faced a time where enemies threatened to over run and destroy Judah. He called on the historical promises of God. That the land was theirs, that the nations who threatened them had no right to do so, and that all oppressed who call on God will be heard. Bottom line, Jehoshaphat didn’t know how he could survive the armies that outnumbered him. All he could do was trust God to move in a big way.

Matthew 6:9-13. Lord’s Prayer. A model prayer that’s easy to remember, and say anytime, or plug in your personalization in praise and worship. We close the show with a musical version of this well known prayer.

Music in the show include

  • Phil Harris – Deck of Cards
  • Dylan Langan – Lord’s Prayer (as found on Internet Archive)

Quest for Truth 121 Fundamentally Discerning Truth

It’s another show that almost wasn’t. We knew going into it that Nathan would be missing, so it was up to the remaining hosts to pick up the slack. A discussion was started, in hopes that our prodigal host might at least phone in for a couple minutes. Nothing.

Since we were already under full steam into the topics for the day, we decided to hit the record button, and jump right in. There was just one little problem. The record button never got hit. After an hour or so of the most amazing podcast ever… the kind of thing to knock your socks off, and skyrocket us into the attention of national notoriety and fame as prize winning podcasters… well, OK… maybe not that great, but nobody will ever know for sure except for those in the room.

Instead, what the listener is stuck with today is Keith re-creating the general flow of conversation. To break things up are a few tracks from an episode of the Old Fashioned Revival Hour from April 6, 1952. Stand by though… there is something of a surprise when a phone call actually gets through.

The topics covered include:

A response to a bunny trail comment made in the last episode where we mentioned Adam West, and how he was still out there, actively doing voiceover work. Then he died within the week. We weigh in on the loss, and want to assure listeners that it was in no way our fault. We promise that if we ever mention your name in the podcast, you won’t die before the week is up… We think… Or, at least we hope you don’t… Hey! Is anybody up for some experimentation to prove that theory?

Another topic involved a definition of what a fundamentalist is. As heard from another podcast, the lengthy definition was that, words to this affect, that it is a belief of black and white principles that are used to suppress, or brush under the rug, the complex issues of life. Opening the door to repressed emotions, or bad characteristics to come boiling out in a dangerous way. This doesn’t even resemble the dictionary definition, or reality of fundamentals in real practice.

From Miriam Webster:
fundamentalism
noun
Definition of fundamentalism
1 a: often capitalized : a movement in 20th century Protestantism emphasizing the literally interpreted Bible as fundamental to Christian life and teaching
b: : the beliefs of this movement
c: : adherence to such beliefs a minister noted for his strict fundamentalism
2 : a movement or attitude stressing strict and literal adherence to a set of basic principles

Even the definition on Urban Dictionary closely reflects this same definition.

The problem is that even someone who practices fundamentalism, is often painted by the kind of black and white brush that the critic is so offended by. Doesn’t that make that critic also fundamental in their belief against a fundamentalist person?

In the original, now non-existent recording, Chris and Keith discuss how real fundamentalism is practiced. It has nothing to do with suppressing complexity. Rather using fundamental building blocks and skill is the foundation to grow into complex environments. Here’s a sample of what we mean. Think of learning the fundamentals of arithmetic. Remember 1st grade? Simple addition and subtraction. You need to learn it, practice it. Master it. Fast forward to college, and advanced algebra or calculous. To survive the complex world of the formula in front of you, you use the same fundamental concepts you learned long ago to crunch the numbers, and apply to the strategy in the formula’s complex function. Fundamentals are ingrained in the core of what you know, not layered over the complex problem to suppress it.

Finally, a presentation of an open source book by CI
Schofield, Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth. Keith reads from the table of contents, and the introduction. Since Chris wasn’t available to re-create his classy, colorful commentary, the Retrobots lend a hand with a bit of righteous reading.

Basically, the book is a short one, and doesn’t make an effort to cover the entire bible. Schofield presents a handful of core teachings that he felt all Christians should know. The purpose is to demonstrate how to properly discern, or using his words, and the King James era writers, to divide the word of truth. Taking the bible literally means having an understanding of the context in which it was written, to who it was written, who wrote it. Historical events are literally true, and often are easily proved true by evidence when archaeologists uncover artifacts. Schofield also addresses the diligence a bible student should have in understanding that kind of context. Built on evidence, not on experience.

Being aware of interpretation fuzziness can also be rightly discerned. Comparing parallel versions, correctly applying the lesson, or principle the original historical event presents, and observing how the principle carries its message across the span of time. Knowing the difference between promises made to ancient people, more modern people, those outside the faith, to matters under law, as opposed to grace, and the understanding to know where they cross over, or where they don’t. Lots of complexity, but applying fundamental, core principles, is key to always being able to correctly divide the word of truth.

This is a topic that could likely resurface, but for now drop us a line if there are questions, or if something needs to be clarified.

Quest for Truth 120 Uncompromised Truth

Or… Pollutionin the Church.
Or… Turning Away from Authority

After a few weeks of pre-recorded content, we’re back in the chat room, and live. Except for Chris, due to sometechnical difficulties. With a lot on the table to talk about, we get right to our segment of…

Meet the Hosts. We review some things that transpiredsince our last live chat, and a Mother’s day moment. The cat bible gets some attention. Yes, there is such a thing. No, it isn’t a weird religious cult, just a handbook on understanding your furry feline pet better. As a random Internet tidbit, we compare a quote from an atheist observation, to a well known Christian doctrine. Proving that even a self proclaimed atheist can arrive at godly wisdom, which they reject, and can actually understand the benefit of that wisdom

We also present the definition of discernment anwisdom. Two much neeeded traits for existing worldviews today that seem lacking most of the time. .

  • Discernment: Knowing the difference between good and bad, the genuine and the fake.
    ,li>Wisdom: desiring the good and genuine.

In a slow progression to the main topic, we talk about politics. Not in taking sides , but in examining what “Classic Liberalism” is, and how we ended up with the extremes we have in our modern climate between modern liberals and modern conservatives. It’s just a brief outline to illustrate how ideas have shifted, and have strayed due to movements that have polluted and compromised the original idea of democracy in America.

Why is that important? If core teachings are strayed from, it doesn’t matter if it’s a political ideal, a worldview, or the bible itself. The original truth is lost at the whim and at the mercy of a declining humanity.

Main Topic

Ezekiel 2:3-7 (ESV)

Ezekiel 2

3 And he said to me, “Son of man, I send you to the people of Israel, to nations of rebels, who have rebelled against me. They and their fathers have transgressed against me to this very day.
4 The descendants also are impudent and stubborn: I send you to them, and you shall say to them, `Thus says the Lord GOD.´
5 And whether they hear or refuse to hear (for they are a rebellious house) they will know that a prophet has been among them.
6 And you, son of man, be not afraid of them, nor be afraid of their words, though briers and thorns are with you and you sit on scorpions. Be not afraid of their words, nor be dismayed at their looks, for they are a rebellious house.
7 And you shall speak my words to them, whether they hear or refuse to hear, for they are a rebellious house.

Over generations, the truth of worship to the true God had been lost. In a short phrase, to love the Lord God, had been forgotten, distorted, and compromised by outside worldviews. One small compromise had been made, then another, and still others. I’m sure the reasons made sense. They probably suited personal convenience, or brought in a practice from outside religious, or pagan practices. Truth had ben lost, and the time to return to God was coming.

How bad was it? Keep in mind, this wasn’t the world at large. These were God’s special people who should have known better.

The people were:

  • Rebellious
  • Transgressing – To break away from authority.
  • Impudent – Severe, cruel.
  • Stiff-Hearted – stropng, or bold, but in a bad way. Hard, violent.

Ezekiel had a mission to speak truth:

  • Sent
  • Say
  • Word of Lord God (‘Adonay Yahweh)
  • Fearless (fear not).
    • Not of briars (stings), or thorns prickles()
    • Not Dismayed (layed down)

      by their looks, or rebellion (bitterness)

The people may, or may not listen. – Listen and under stand.

They may, or may not Forebvear, or to cease, or go slack.

But they have been told a clear word from a prophet.

The important thing here is that if God wasn’t goin to spare his own people, he will surely do the same to his modern churches when the effort isn’t made to keep uncompromised from world teachings. Let the world do what it does. Let God’s light shine, but it has to be his unpolluted light, discern the good and bad. Discern the genuine and the fakle, and apply wisdom to keep it out of worship[ practices.

Quest for Truth 119 Unseen Events (True Misconceptions)

A pre-recorded episode, where we visit Nathan Caldwell as he delivers a sermon titled: Unseen Events. (Matthew 10:34-40)

After Keith introduces the topic of the movement of Christians away from holding a basic biblical outlook on life, we pop into Missionary Baptist church. It’s not the lack of belief that the bible is God’s authoritative word that opens up the doors to slide further away, but because Christians have begun to get their ideas about God from the media and secular sources, a falling away from a bible based worldview has resulted. Do you have doubts about what you believe? Do you feel torn between what society claims is right, compared with what the bible teaches as absolute truth? Doubts are good when they cause you to think, and search for what’s true.

Featured in the show is a track from Country Gospel Music Association artist, Kathy Adkins: I Give You Jesus. . Her songs are used by permission. Find out more about her online. at the Country Gospel Music Association

  • Christians are to do the work to:
    • Win souls,
    • Baptize,
    • Train.
  • We can’t do our mission if we’re keeping silent.

    So then faith cometh by hearing,
    and hearing by the word of God. (Romans 10:17 KJV)

  • We can’t win our own way,

    But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags;
    and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. (Isaiah 64:6 KJV)

  • We can look for a future of hope, andpeace.

    2. Peace is not always possible. (35,36)

    Truth of Jesus sets a man against father, and woman against mother.

    • Knnow Jesus know peace. No Jesus, no peace.
    • Be at peace with Jesus, and through him at peace with others.
    • Don’t seek peace with the world.
    • Misconception: humanity is basically good. (see, Isaiah 64:6)
    • Christians have a duty: Matthew 5:13-16
      • Christians are to be salt and light.
      • Salt without flavor is useless.
      • Light should be prominant, and not hidd.
      • Have influence. Flavor your community. Shine in doing what’s right and good.

    3. The delusional disciple(37)

    Love for others, above Jesus, is not worthy of him.

    • Love for Jesus demands to be shared.
    • Share, even when world finds it offensive.
    • Prioritize.
      • Blend with the world, be in it, but don’t change the gospel.
      • World success is no indication of success with God.
      • Stand out, but stand out for Jesus.
      • Act how Jesus acts. Model him.
      • If the world hates you, it’s because it hated God first.
    • Satisfactory solution
      • Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. (2 Timothy 2:15 KJV)
      • Serve him. (a workman)
      • Seek what God thinks on the issues. (study to be approved)
      • Be ready to give an answer. (Rightly dividing the word of truth)
      • Do right, even if treated unfairly. (unashamed)

    Conclusion

    The philosophy of “Live and let live” has taken away religious liberty.

    Silence is acceptance. It’s time to stop being silent, and hold to the truth of Jesus.

  • Quest for Truth 118 Saving Sinners, with Charles E Fuller

    The Old Time Revival Hour is a show from the world of old time radio, that first aired on March 10, 1940

    Rather than playing the full hour, which consisted of a half hour of music, prayer requests, and reading letters from listeners, with the second half featuring the sermon, Keith comments on some of Charles Fuller’s biography, and the struggles he faced. He felt that Christianity was becoming to liberal in it’s political stance, and it was straying from foundational teaching, namely the truth of the gospel.

    Though he was on the air off and on in the 1920’s, he wasn’t on regularly until the early 1930’s. In those days religious programming wasn’t allowed to have a commercial sponsor, or a foundation to support it. All funding had to come from listeners, and money could only go to the radio ministry. No outside missions work could be supported with those contributions. An area that was important to Charles Fuller.

    Though he supported himself with his 20 acre orange ranch, weather caused crops to fail as he tried launching his radio ministry. Sickness struck his wife, and young son, to the point of near death. The ordeals caused him to rely on God for money as the needs arose. At times it seemed the answer would be to phone in to cancel his radio time slot, or to declare bankruptcy.

    Tracks from this episode are inserted between comments by Keith, but the entire show can be downloaded for free on the Internet. By and large, shows from old time radio are considered in the public domain, however most of the hundreds of Old Fashioned Revival Hour shows are held by the Fuller Theological Seminary. You will need to visit their library, or purchase them online.

    Details shared about Charles Fuller, his family, and life are taken from his biography, written by his son, Daniel Fuller. Read the biography online for free.

    Tracks included are:

    • Opening theme song, and announcement
    • Hymn: He Included Me Too
    • Charles Fuller: Mentions how churches play the show before service, and prepare men for salvation of souls.
      • Plus a hymn: Jesus Calls Us.
    • Hymn: Trusting Jesus
      • Followed by Charles Fuller: Making appeal for prayer to keep broadcast going with free will gifts.
    • Hymn: I Must Tell Jesus
    • Grace Fuller: Reads letters from listeners, begging to stay on the air, and sending nickels, dimes and quarters. Others reporting salvation, help through sickness. From people of all ages including young people.
    • Hymn: When Your Heart is Aching.
    • Charles Fuller: Saving Sinners, based on 1 Timothy 1:15 and surrounding passage.
    • Benediction Hymn: Just as I Am.

    As the program signs off, be aware that the contact information given for the radio ministry is out of date, and no longer applies. However, to contact us, feel free to use the comment form on these show notes. Send email, or through our HPNCast Community Facebook group.